Danny B.

Translate extension intefering with pages

Would you please have a look at the following pages and see how they can be fixed:

• Hong Kong/Shopping - translate tags breaking numbered list
• Tourist Attractions - translate tags interfering with category tag, causing the page not to categorize

Thanks! Deryck Chan (talk) 21:58, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Well done, you're awesome! Please move on to tackle the Shopping page :) Deryck Chan (talk) 23:39, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Should be both fixed now. Feel free to poke me with other pages.
— Danny B. 00:14, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Drastic, but works. Thanks. Next question...

Translations:Must-read tips/22/zh - not translatable except by admins. Did the fact that this message contains external links and nothing else trigger some page creation filter? Deryck Chan (talk) 20:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Fixed.
— Danny B. 20:40, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Another drastic solution. duh. Deryck Chan (talk) 22:35, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

In fact, it's not drastic at all. It is actually how translations should be handled. ;-)
— Danny B. 22:37, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Yea I just figured out that was a good job done. Nothing else was affected! Was external links the problem or was it something else? Deryck Chan (talk) 22:44, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes. In a nutshell - it invisibly required CAPTCHA.
— Danny B. 22:51, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Can translate extension cope with page moves automatically, or will all translations be lost? Deryck Chan (talk) 22:46, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Been told that yes. Don't blame me if it won't work though ;-)
— Danny B. 22:51, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

It seems to have worked! Just need to wait for the <languages /> bar to refresh itself. Deryck Chan (talk) 22:56, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

IRC

Would it make more sense to have IRC link to a wikipage which has links to both the irc:// address and the freenode webchat service? Only a small portion of this site's visitors have IRC clients installed. Deryck Chan (talk) 23:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I had such intention, this was a temporary solution to not forget to have IRC mentioned here before I'll create some page... ;-) Please feel free to start it yourself if you have any ideas.
— Danny B. 23:05, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Also don't we just have one #wikimania channel for all Wikimania-related discussions? Deryck Chan (talk) 08:56, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

There are actually always both, for years, while the non-yeared one is mostly used around and during the event and the yeared one especially for planning meetings, questions from attendees, scholars etc... This can actually be described on that page you suggested instead of direct IRC link.
— Danny B. 05:25, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Page deletion

• (show/hide) 00:51, 27 July 2012 Danny B. (Talk | contribs | block) deleted page As a result of numerous reviews of phony (experiments) (view/restore)

Isn't that called "spam"? Deryck Chan (talk) 10:09, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I just tend not to judge the content... Does it matter? Do you want me to put spam there next time?
— Danny B. 12:05, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

"Spam" is in the drop-down list. And newbies don't usually make experiments with such commercial descriptive titles :) Deryck Chan (talk) 12:10, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Main page

Are we planning to attempt to translate the main page? Deryck Chan (talk) 00:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure. But I guess after the content is a bit mote settled to save translators work.
— Danny B. 00:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

But are we really supposed to? The front page is bilingual anyway; neither did previous Wikimania websites have separate translated versions of the main page. Deryck Chan (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Sidebar

Danny - interesting to see your latest edits to the sidebar and removal of the HK navigation tabs. We (Simon and I) are guessing that it's something to do with mobile view?

I've got some questions though. Why is the "Participation" box collapsed by default, but "Local information" isn't? Is it possible to have it the other way round? Deryck Chan (talk) 14:49, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Not only mobile. Even on desktops the pages got way too wide (and expecting some new tabs they would be yet wider) and went out of the screen. The accessibility of pages built that way was poorish. Also it is user confusing to have another additional navigation (we already have sidebar and two top menus). And last but not least - it is better manageable from the translations point of view (not finished yet, working on it).
Re the collapsible items - simple workaround seems to be to just swap these two submenus (we can test it). But if you want to keep the order and have different collapsion, I'd have to code some script for it.
— Danny B. 15:13, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

So after discussion with dev - swapping the order of sections would work - the first collapsible section is always uncollapsed by default. Hacking the behavior to have stuff behave different way than default is possible but not desired though and might cause issues.
— Danny B. 23:25, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll just swap the section order. Deryck Chan (talk) 02:18, 14 December 2012 (UTC)